"Seeking for earthlike
planets" |
Interview mit Professor
Dr. Michel Mayor |
| (C) Dr. Harald Zaun,
2002 |
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Extrasolare Planeten scheinen im Universum an der
Tagesordnung zu sein. 77 dieser Objekte haben die Astronomen bisher gefunden
(Stand: Januar 2002), viele davon kreisen um nahe gelegene Sterne. Die meisten
von ihnen gleichen Gasriesen wie Jupiter. Einige der bekannten Exoplaneten
umrunden ihre Sonne innerhalb der bewohnbaren Zone - und geben damit der
Diskussion über Leben im Weltall neue Nahrung.
Der Schweizer Michel Mayor, 59 Jahre, ordentlicher
Professor am Institut für Astronomie an der Universität Genf und seit
1998 Direktor des Genfer Observatoriums entdeckte zusammen mit Didier Queloz im
Jahr 1995 den ersten extrasolaren Planeten 51 Pegasi b. Diese Entdeckung wurde
von Science als eine der zehn wichtigsten Entdeckungen des Jahres
1995 bezeichnet.
Michel Mayor ist ständiger Mitarbeiter im Rahmen der
Programme des European Southern Observatory in Chile (ESO) und des
Observatoriums der Haute-Provence (CNRS, Frankreich). Er förderte die
Forschung als Vorsitzender der Kommission der galaktischen Struktur der
Internationalen Astronomischen Union (IAU) von 1988 bis 1991 und u.a. der
Schweizerischen Gesellschaft für Astrophysik und Astronomie von 1990 bis
1993. Ob es ihm vorbehalten sein wird, den ersten erdähnlichen Planeten zu
detektieren steht in den Sternen, welche die Planetenjäger derzeit
anvisieren. Die deutsche Übersetzung dieses Interviews wurde in dem
Internetmagazin "Telepolis" (www.telepolis.de) veröffentlicht (direkte
Link zum Beitrag siehe Ende des Interviews).
MICHEL G.E. MAYOR, born on 12 January 1942 in Lausanne, is
a Swiss citizen. Full Professor, Department of Astronomy, University of Geneva,
and Director of the Geneva Observatory (since 1998). He has taken part in and
continues to contribute to the work of the international scientific community,
at the European Southern Observatory (ESO, Chile) and at the Observatoire de
Haute-Provence (CNRS, France), with stays at Cambridge Observatory (UK) in 1971
and at the University of the Hawaii (in 1994-1995), undertaking work at the
Presidency of the Commission on the galactic structure of the International
Astronomical Union (IAU) (1988-1991), of the Scientific and Technical Council
of the European Southern Observatory (1990-1992) and of the Swiss Society of
Astrophysics and Astronomy (1990-1993). Among his recognitions, mention must be
made of the 1983 Prize of the Académie Française des Sciences
(Prize "Charles-Louis de Saulces de Freycinet"), the discovery of the first
extrasolar planet 51 Peg b which was indicated by "Science" among the ten most
important discoveries of 1995, the medal of the Commission of Bioastronomy of
the International Astronomical Union (IAU) awarded during the 1997 General
Assembly of Kyoto, the 1998 Prize Marcel-Benoist awarded by the Swiss
Confederation, the 1998 Janssen Prize by the Astronomical Society of France and
the 1998 ADION Medal by the Observatory of the Côte d'Azur (Nice, France)
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H. Zaun: After your discovery it must have been an
exhausting experience for you to be in the focus of media!
Michel Mayor: I ts true. It was a very new
experience for me. Normally most scientists work all their life without having
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H. Zaun: How often have you been contacted by
journalists since your discovery?
Michel Mayor: Almost every week Ive several
contacts to different journalists. At the beginning I told myself to be
patient, because it will stop after a while. But its still continuing to
no end. Therefore I did stop to count my contacts some time. |
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H. Zaun: Black Holes, Superstrings, Wormholes
all these technical terms seem to be very popular right now. Do you
think that astronomy in general does fascinate people?
Michel Mayor: I dont believe that general
public is really interested in extrasolar planets. They are more interested in
the question: Is there life in universe? So probably the question of exobiology
is the most fascinating point for people. |
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H. Zaun: Are you in close contact with scientific
astrobiological groups?
Michel Mayor: Yes, Im part of the
"Bioastronomy Commission of the International Astronomical Union". And Im
participating in a few conferences worldwide. This kind of interdisciplinary
conferences are very useful to see the problems from different lines and point
of views, to learn about other fields and to meet other researchers. For
example I will be in Australia next year to join the Bioastronomy
2002-Conference Life among the Stars. I like to be in contact with
these kind of people. |
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| Professor Michel Mayor, Foto: Zaun |
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H. Zaun: is your personal opinion about the
SETI-radioastronomers, who seek for extraterrestrial radio signals? Do you
think that these kind of projects do make any sense or isnt the goal to
detect a cosmic message in a bottle wasted time and money?
Michel Mayor: This is a very, very difficult
question. On one side this people are very serious, because they built very
clever and powerful instruments. But we do not have any possibility to estimate
the chance of success of this experiment. But if they succeed in their
experiments some day the importance of their discovery will be extremely huge.
So whats the product of this tool? Its a little bit like when you
want to earn money you may work like anybody, but you never will become rich.
On the other hand you can be sure to receive money at the end of the month. But
the SETI people have a very low chance to earn something. Personally I
wouldnt be able to work in such a team. To my mind the chance of success
is simply to low to devote many years of work for any kind of SETI-project.
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H. Zaun: Did you ever meet Frank Drake?
Michel Mayor: Yes, many times! |
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H. Zaun: If you had to estimate the potential
likelihood of extraterrestrial intelligent life in universe could you
determine it?
Michel Mayor: This is difficult to define in a
scientific way. Definitely I would prefer to consider that some kind of
intelligent life really does exist. But that is not science; its just a
personal feeling. |
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H. Zaun: After your discovery you have been forced
by the Nature magazine to avoid any contact to the press as long as
the article is not published. This procedure is obligatory for on any
Nature author. The consequence was that the American press
reported, two American scientists did discover the first exoplanet. This must
have been the most frustrating situation for you in your career.
Michel Mayor: It was not the most frustrating
situation. But its true that we were a little bit irritated, that all
people did comment this fact and discuss about it while we still have been on
the embargo from Nature. That time the situation was a little bit
crazy. |
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H. Zaun: Do you like the term 'planet hunter'?
Michel Mayor: Well, that is okay! |
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H. Zaun: It looks like Planet planet hunting seems
to become a new Olympic discipline. Its very obvious, that the
scientist-crew who discover the first real earth-like-planet will receive the
gold medal. When there will be the presentation ceremony? When will scientist
discover the first extrasolar planet like Earth? What is you forecast
concerning that point?
Michel Mayor: I believe we can be little precise on
that fact. The technique we use now has a lot of possibilities to detect
massive exoplanets. But we have to wait for new more progressive technique. In
my mind the only credible technique to discover earth-like-planets is the
'planet-three-transit' technique, which is the central part of the
Eddington-Satellite-Mission. But this mission designed by ESA will probably not
launched before 10 years from now. The most important task for future will be
to find a planet which is similar to earth. My suggestion is: Maybe in 10
years, probably in 15 years we will detect the first earth-like-planet. I
dont think this could happen sooner. |
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H. Zaun: How many extrasolar planets have been
detected right now? When you look into the internet youll find various
numbers. Obviously it depends on how often the website is updated. Ive
got the information now that there are 77 Exoplanets registered. Is this
correct?
Michel Mayor: The number is often part of the
politics for example to get financial support. All together in our
actual list in Geneva we have 77 planets. |
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H. Zaun: Whats about the financial support
for your project?
Michel Mayor: We dont complain at all. We are
very well supported. |
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H. Zaun: Have your never had the idea to immigrate
to the United States?
Michel Mayor: No, certainly not. |
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H. Zaun: How did the rise of the internet
influence your work?
Michel Mayor: At the beginning I was absolutely not
interested in the internet for my work. But then I realized I was forced to
work with just to keep normal contact to different scientists and many other
people. In future we will do some more effort to optimize our website.
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H. Zaun: Would your you be able to seek for
extrasolar planets without intelligent Hard- and Software?
Michel Mayor: We have a very powerful fast
Sun-station. By the way this was probably one reason for our success. In 1995
the chance to detect a exoplanet was very low. The software used by Geoffrey
Marcy and Paul Butler was very slow and time-consuming. In comparsion to both
of them we would have a look on the results some minutes after the
measurements. So this did allow us to repeat the measurement immediately if you
noticed something strange. |
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